{"id":13116,"date":"2025-09-11T21:42:00","date_gmt":"2025-09-12T01:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pef.org\/?p=13116"},"modified":"2025-09-11T21:42:00","modified_gmt":"2025-09-12T01:42:00","slug":"president-spence-holds-town-hall-to-update-members-on-contract-civil-service","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pef.org\/articles\/news\/president-spence-holds-town-hall-to-update-members-on-contract-civil-service\/","title":{"rendered":"President Spence holds Town Hall to update members on Contract, Civil Service"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>PEF President Wayne Spence was joined by Vice President and Contract Chair Darlene Williams, as well as PEF Civil Service Enforcement\/Research Director and Contract Administration Director Deborah Greenberg for about a 40-minute Telephone Town Hall.\u00a0 Use the timecodes below the recording to jump to the part you wish to hear.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"PEF Telephone Town Hall, Sept. 10, 2025\" src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/1117985193?dnt=1&amp;app_id=122963\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:01:30 \u2013 President Spence and Director Foley discuss the compensation study. <\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">President Spence met with Gov. Hochul and spoke about the contract with Deloitte and where we were with the compensation study. Her response was that it is going on, but given what\u2019s been going on with the federal government, they may not be able to implement any of the recommendations.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:04:30<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> \u2013 Discussion turns to NY HELPS and the new plan to \u201cmodernize\u201d the Civil Service merit system. PEF has been hearing that people being hired under NY HELPS are moving into positions above existing staff waiting for promotional exams\/opportunities.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:06:20<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> \u2013 Foley, and her team, created a flyer that was emailed out, posted on the PEF App, on the PEF.org website, and on social media, explaining what the state has proposed after NY HELPS ends in June 2026, and calling members to action.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Foley said the state has not increased promotional exams and they have not opened the regional testing centers, as promised. With this looming end date, instead of putting more resources toward increasing promised items \u2013 the Department of Civil Service has proposed implementation of a job application management system (PEF does not oppose that) and expanded use of evaluations of training and experience, versus merit testing. <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">These are not direct assessment of skills, these are reviews of resumes. While these are not new, they have been historically used to filter out candidates at the highest level, not for open competitive positions and that is what they are proposing. We have no idea how they are going to score this. We have a lot of questions.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:12:35<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> \u2013 Call to action in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pef.org\/articles\/news\/highlighting-concerns-explaining-civil-service-plans-to-modernize-system\/\">flyer<\/a>. Take a moment to understand our main concerns, such as discrimination against marginalized populations, weakening of the merit system, barriers for new entrants and career mobility, and a risk of dishonesty. PEF needs your help to apply pressure to ensure we continue to have a dialogue as stakeholders in this conversation. <a href=\"https:\/\/actionnetwork.org\/letters\/protect-civil-service-merit-fitness\/\">Click here to send a pre-written letter to the New York State Department of Civil Service.<\/a><\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:18:15 \u2013 Director of Contract Administration Debra Greenberg and PEF VP and Contract Chair Darlene Williams begin discussion on contract negotiations<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The PEF\/State Agreement expires on April 2, 2026. PEF sent a demand to bargain letter to the Office of Employee Relations (OER) for dates to sit down in September and October. President Spence said the state indicated they are not ready because they are unsure what the state coffers are going to look like after federal budget cuts trickle down to the state.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">PEF wants to go to the table to negotiate non-economic items that are just as important and we should start having those conversations.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:20:45<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> &#8211; VP Williams urged members to fill out the contract survey available <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">here, <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">and said the Contract Team started meeting every month since January. Bargaining in these challenging times, with the current economy and what is going on with the federal budget, is going to be hard.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">She said during Labor Day parades PEF made sure to let everyone know what PEF does. PEF Does It &#8211; we keep the state running and we have to remind the Governor that we are the people that keep the state running.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Members were urged to take the survey and send additional ideas and concerns to <\/span><a href=\"mailto:2026contractsuggestions@pef.org\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">2026contractsuggestions@pef.org<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:24:45 \u2013 Discussion on \u201csunset\u201d wins in the last contract begins.\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Greenberg outlined several benefits that used to sunset and no longer do, thanks to the Contract Team\u2019s efforts in the last round of negotiations (<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/communicator.pef.org\/issue\/volume-43-no-7\/negotiated-end-to-sunsets-keeps-benefits-active-even-after-contract-expiration\/\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">read the story here<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">). These included committee funding, employer contributions to Dependent Care Advantage Accounts; longevity pay for newly eligible, and more. The team no longer has to \u201ctrade\u201d anything to keep these programs going after contract expiration.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:28:30 \u2013 Discussion turns to the new Anthem dental plan.<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Anthem response is mixed, Greenberg reported. The directory is filled with inaccuracies and PEF has asked Civil Service to do an audit.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">To help with network issues, PEF advocated for mobile dentist clinics that could accommodate 50 patients a day. Some thought it was great. Unfortunately, between PEF and other NYSHIP members, only 30 people signed up.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">0:35:20 \u2013 Limited Access Program discussion.\u00a0<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">If there are no network dentists in a member\u2019s area, they can call <\/span><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">833-821-1949<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">, and get Anthem to approve in advance that you see an out of network dentist and they will cover you as if in-network. We want a lot more people to do this. MAKE SURE TO CALL in ADVANCE. The more cost to the state to pay these, the more they will be interested in improving the network.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Members are urged to take part in the letter-writing campaign and contract survey, both in the PEF App. For information on how to download and use the app, visit <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pef.org\/app\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">http:\/\/www.pef.org\/app<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;469777462&quot;:[8255],&quot;469777927&quot;:[0],&quot;469777928&quot;:[1]}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PEF President Wayne Spence was joined by Vice President and Contract Chair Darlene Williams, as well as PEF Civil Service Enforcement\/Research Director and Contract Administration Director Deborah Greenberg for about&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":2203,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,486],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13116","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-townhall"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v27.1 (Yoast SEO v27.1.1) - 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